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Leslie A Stem's avatar

"Tom was there without boot or shoe,

with moonshine wetting his big, brown toes:

once upon a time, the story goes."

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I just saw this quote today for the first time. Watched both seasons of RoP.

I don’t know how you’re possibly attempting to shoehorn people misquoting Tolkien into a defense of this show. They’re entirely independent events and have nothing to do with each other. People misquote The Gladiator and The Dark Knight all the time, and those are phenomenal pieces of media and people misquoting it has no bearing on the quality of it or even the person misquoting’s perception of it.

Rings of Power is not a terrible piece of Lord of the Rings media. It is an absolutely abysmal piece of tv removed 100% from the Lord of the Rings universe. The fact they dumped feces all over their sources material and then steamrolled it over and over and over again so that you didn’t know where LOTR started and feces ended was just a cherry on top making this one of the worst pieces of media that has ever been created.

Characters could not keep motivations straight inside on ONE scene. I.e. Sauron needs rings. Says his one goal is to get rings. Conveniently, has the guy who can make the rings right in front of him. Also, that guy knows where the rings went. What does Sauron do? Makes an ominous statement about how he can keep him alive and there are things worse than death… then immediately flies off the handle and kills the one guy that can provide what he is looking for.

That is plainly terrible writing. Doesn’t matter if it is in Scooby Doo or War and Peace. Doesn’t matter if there is source material or not. That is abysmal writing.

How about just general sense making? Absolutely not, I.e. the battle of Eregion one of the worst battle scenes I have seen in any film or tv show. First, catapult/trebuchet a mountain…. To dam a river…. To clear a riverbed…. To move siege equipment across to lay siege on a city. If any part of that series didn’t immediately jar you out of the story, we are just a different type of person. “Fantasy” stories create rules of their universe and the story has to abide by those rules. Not one part of that even makes an ounce of sense in our world. And no part of that makes any sense in the fantasy world THE SHOW created (not LOTR generally). Further, Elrond cavalry charge… to stop thousands of cavalry in an instant… to then TAKE THE CAVALRY INTO CLOSE TREES IN A FORREST. What in the utter fuck? I am not military expert. My knowledge basically amounts to playing Age of Empires as a kid. And even my dumb ass knows that cavalry is an asset in open plains, especially in a charge and an actual liability in close trees where horses cannot maneuver, and a rider cannot spur the horses to even trot without hitting branches. My dumb ass wouldn’t make such an idiotic military decision, a thousands of years old genius of a master elven race military commander should never make that decision. If that didn’t jar you from the story, we are just different types of people.

Consistency of plot/world. RoP fails again. Again to Sauron and Celebrimbor. Sauron has Celebrimbor in some illusion he created in his head during the siege on Eregion so that Celebrimbor will make the rings he wants so desperately. When Celebrimbor breaks out of the illusion, the camera pans across his forge… and the forge is IN RUINS. Destroyed in the siege. WHAT IN THE UTTER FUCK WAS CELEBRIMBOR DOING IN THE ILLUSION?? What was Sauron doing?? The entire point of the illusion was to make the rings, but the entire forge was destroyed. Was Celebrimbor just walking in circles talking to himself? Makes zero sense. The illusion was in his mind, they painstakingly make that clear in the show. So if the entire forge was broken in reality what was he doing? Then Sauron sees Celembrimbor is out of the illusion… and basically handcuffs him to his forge, within arms reach of all of his tools. HES A MASTER ELVEN SMITH, the best the world has ever seen. So good he can make stuff even Sauron can’t. And we are supposed to believe he cannot get out of handcuffs in his own forge with all his tools at hand? That is again idiotic writing.

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